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20 September 2007 @ 03:15 pm
high school musical  
So last Friday, as previously reported by Maureen, I watched High School Musical at Libba Bray and Barry Goldblatt's house, along with Scott and Justine. This is because it was Justine's birthday and what she wanted to do was watch High School Musical on the theory that we all write for teens (except for Barry and my boyfriend who were there because Barry lives there and I guess my boyfriend felt that he had nothing better to do) and therefore we should watch High School Musical because teens watch it and we should understand why.

Now, I am not someone who likes musicals generally. As a small child my grandmother used to take me to classic musicals on Broadway like 42nd Street and Singin' in the Rain and I always thought that the songs were the boring part you had to sit through to get to the part with the dialogue and plot. Clearly because I am a Philistine. Fortunately for me High School Musical only has about four songs in it.

Now, I am also someone who is against the idea that there are books, for instance, that I am "too old for." I think good children's books have a lot to offer adults. I defy anyone not to get some enjoyment out of Don't Let the Pigeon Drive the Bus. That thing is a masterpiece. But I did start to wonder at the outset of HSM if maybe we weren't all kind of too old for it. It stars Zac Efron, a person who looks so bland I have already forgotten his appearance, and Vanessa Hudgeons, a person who has sent naked pictures of herself to Drake Bell, the main problem there being, I think, that he is on a different Disney show than her and she is supposed to date in-cast (in theory she is dating Zac, I recall from my days at Star Magazine, but I doubt it somehow.) The movie starts with the tag line:

NEW YEARS EVE

Justine: Shouldn't New Year's have an apostrophe in it?
Scott: Shouldn't the name Zac have a "k" in it?

Later there's a scene where the brainy kids club tapes Zac secretly and shows the footage to Vanessa. Across the bottom of the screen is the word "receeving", presumably because it's a live feed.

Barry: Wait, these are the smart kids. Shouldn't they be able to spell the word "receiving"?

At the end they do not actually ever put on a musical, but there is a big dance number, of course, and the two leads almost kiss, but don't quite.

Me: Wait, after two hours of this, there's not even any KISSING?
Libba: (revealing secret knowledge): That's because this movie isn't for teens, it's for nine year olds.
Scott: THEN WHY ARE WE WATCHING IT?
Justine: And for my next birthday, High School Musical 2.
 
 
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Steve[info]mroctober on September 20th, 2007 07:51 pm (UTC)
2 is much much worse than 1. It has more scenes of Zac shirtless (he has been pumping iron) to tantalize tween girls and gays.
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Møøny[info]moony on September 20th, 2007 08:04 pm (UTC)
I saw approx. 45 seconds of HSM at Target earlier today and thought that if there ever was a high school that deserved federal funding cuts, it's that one.

Of course, I could be bitter because my high school experience was less with the singing and the dancing and more with the crack deals in the bathroom and history books that ended with the Korean War. :P
Kathleen: Pigeon[info]anastasia1901 on September 20th, 2007 08:13 pm (UTC)
RE: I defy anyone not to get some enjoyment out of Don't Let the Pigeon Drive the Bus

That would be my boyfriend. He just doesn't understand the brilliance that is the pigeon.

RE: Wait, after two hours of this, there's not even any KISSING?

That was my opinion as well. That and "wait, why did I just watch that?"

I somehow wound up watching the sing-along version, too, which was extra-annoying...
gemmaa: clary[info]gemmaa on September 20th, 2007 08:14 pm (UTC)
High School Musical is possibly the most appalling musical ever made. I'm normally a huge Disney fan, but HSM is... *shudders*. It just makes ya wanna throw up, doesn't it? XD
And this is a bit of both.[info]orangeaddict on September 20th, 2007 08:24 pm (UTC)
Don't Let the Pigeon Drive the Bus!

Total masterpiece. I've never seen HSM, but had to comment on the pigeon, as I have an abiding love and am glad that you do too.
Sing Blue Silver[info]anemonerose on September 20th, 2007 09:01 pm (UTC)
High School Musical was my bookstore's movie in-store play the month it was released. To punish the employees if they "misbehaved", Manager J would put them in "time out", which was basically just making them go back and watch HSM (without sound, though, so it probably wasn't nearly as punishing as it could have been). He'd then ask them questions about the section they watched. We had a lot of fun the month that was playing in the music department. :-P
Rebecca[info]rebeccael on September 20th, 2007 09:24 pm (UTC)
Hehehehe. Poor Scott.

And um. "Receeving?" Are you kidding me? But why would the kids even have to spell the word when presumably it's part of a function on their camera? Or maybe I am missing something. Either way, HSM needs to get some better copyeditors. Damn.

I have never seen either the original or the sequel, but I heard snippets of the soundtrack on iTunes and was majorly turned off. The songs just sounded....brainwashy. Like, wayyyyyy too happy. Yech.

I am totally confused about whether it really was or was not Justine's birthday. My sources conflict. lol
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andyleggett[info]andyleggett on September 20th, 2007 09:43 pm (UTC)
Kerry (my 22 year old college radio head) has a poster for the first two in there. She explained the fascination thusly: "They're just so atrociously bad, it's funny. And that's why teenagers watch them." You see, teenagers are all snotty little punks these days. *shakes broom*
Faster, plebe! I do believe I have the vapours!: Pigeon[info]slytherincess on September 20th, 2007 09:58 pm (UTC)
Don't Let the Pigeons Drive the Bus FTW!

My kids love to copy the pigeons from that book and I find little drawings of the pigeons stashed in various places throughout my house. Like, behind my toothbrush and stuff.

Also, I like to spell Zac as Zach. I've also known a Zak.
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Roxanne: The Grey Lady- HP[info]sun_star_n_moon on September 20th, 2007 10:28 pm (UTC)
Now, I am also someone who is against the idea that there are books, for instance, that I am "too old for." I think good children's books have a lot to offer adults.

I agree...I have a feeling that the YA section will always be my favorite no matter what age I am.

Also Robin McKinley's "The Hero and The Crown" and "The Blue Sword" are (I think) considered children's books....but they happen to be some of the best books I have ever read.


And High School musical is crapp. I feel as if I loose brain cells every time it is on TV and my cousin insists on watching it. I prefer to listen to musicals like Phantom of the Opera or Moulin Rouge.
...: Little Me![info]aegeus on September 20th, 2007 11:12 pm (UTC)
The extra 'e' in 'Receeving' is obviously code for 'Receiving hard cock in his ass over and over.'

:PPPPPPPP

I finally started that sheep detective book, and it's not half bad. Though I've only read 30 pages, and 10 of those after Maya's birthday dinner, which was more conducive to slurring than to reading. I'm amazed I can type.
₪ ø Ξ .o· - Morri [ECHELON]: Drake EYEEEEW SQUICK[info]hermorrine on September 20th, 2007 11:41 pm (UTC)
It stars Zac Efron, a person who looks so bland I have already forgotten his appearance, and Vanessa Hudgeons, a person who has sent naked pictures of herself to Drake Bell, the main problem there being, I think, that he is on a different Disney show than her and she is supposed to date in-cast (in theory she is dating Zac, I recall from my days at Star Magazine, but I doubt it somehow.)

NO NO NO!! If you MUST repeat the stupid gossip about the person I work for, can't you at least get it right? :P Drake was the star of Nickelodeon's highest-rated show -he was never on Disney. However, Vanessa once appeared on an episode of Drake's show, hence the reason they ever knew one another.

And the official statement: Drake never received those photos.

/working-for-famous-person mode

Oh, but I agree about Zac. Fake tan and plastic Ken hair FTL. Both thumbs down.
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M-ra, Princess of Power!: Let's be bad guys[info]mawaridi on September 21st, 2007 12:37 am (UTC)
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I completely adore trashy teen romance movies, I really do. They are my Mills & Boon, the kind of time-out brainless entertainment that I indulge in when I need to relax. Usually the cheesier the better (I love Never Been Kissed, for example). But High School Musical? It was mind-meltingly awful. I want my two hours back :(

Zac Efron is great in Hairspray, though. I think largely because the fakeness of his appearance is part of his ironic 1960s wholesome starlet charm, and I don't feel like I am supposed to take him seriously :)
dungeonwriter: Toko[info]dungeonwriter on September 21st, 2007 02:29 am (UTC)
Seriously, it only get worse with High School Musical II. I cringed at many parts. How is it so popular?

I mean, my brother was in basketball and choir and no one cared. I was in the school play, the music magazine and I was also a business student. Why is it so big that someone is multi-talented?

And Lucas Grabeel is the only one with talent there.
from tolstoy to tinkerbell: dork[info]ali_granger on September 21st, 2007 03:14 am (UTC)
But... but. It is SO HILARIOUS!

Hilarious in the "Nobody puts baby in the corner" category of true ridiculous schlocky fun cotton candy craptastic entertainment.

It's like the "Teen Witch" of modern teen movies. (Please tell me you've seen Teen Witch?)
Little Miss Adultery[info]snowqueenofhoth on September 21st, 2007 03:23 am (UTC)
Just try watching HSM dubbed in Japanese? XD
I don't know, I only made it through a minute and a half before the mismatching of the sounds and the mouths just irritated the hell out of me.
Jordan Catalano[info]prettyveela on September 21st, 2007 06:24 am (UTC)
I really don't understand the HSM hype at all to be honest. Zac Efron looks like a woman dressing like a man(and doing a good job of it). Everyone is drooling over him yet his features bug the hell outta me.

I think the curly haired kid is cute though.
ginnygrl[info]ginnygrl on September 21st, 2007 12:55 pm (UTC)
They actually kiss in the second one and there's. . .oh wait for it. . .fireworks. . .literally.
neekeebelle[info]neekeebelle on September 21st, 2007 02:02 pm (UTC)
A few facts
Drake Bell is ACTUALLY on Nickeleodean(however the hell its spelled) on a show called Drake and Josh...if Vanessa Hudgens sent him naked pictures of her...good for her he's MUCH cuter than Zac Efron, and sings better. High School Musical 2 does having kissing at the very end...you wait two hours for that. Also I suggest if you are going to subject yourself to a Disney Channel movie be prepared to have a scary movie on hand for afterwards...You need to balance out the good wholesomeness out with something twisted...keeps you sane!
(Anonymous) on September 21st, 2007 04:11 pm (UTC)
hello there cassie clare
just wanted to pop in and say, i bought City of Bones this week, and am about a quarter of the way through. first of all, congratulations! i'm so pleased you've published your own book, hurray, one up for fanfiction writers!
i see some elements of the draco trilogy, notably with a good-looking jerk like jace, and of course your signature brand of totally random humor ("why are you always such an asshat?" was the first to catch me off guard). also, the "still not king" reference on clary's button.
anyway, off to finish the rest now, see you later :)

~ tania.
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[アムナ]~ Amna[info]narcolepticnemu on October 16th, 2007 09:50 am (UTC)
Hey Cassie, if I be the thousandth person to friend you do I get something special? *friends you anyway* XDD

I watched 5 seconds of HSM and knew I'd hate myself forever if I watched the rest. But LOL @ the comments that've been flying around about it XD
[info]cloudstriferk on October 17th, 2007 10:14 am (UTC)
Hi!
Can you please send me Draco Veritas? I got to know you send them to people... I would really love to read it... Thanks! My email is ade_tsm@hotmail.com
Only happy when dancin': Happy twins[info]miss_silmarwen on October 18th, 2007 12:34 pm (UTC)
THEN WHY ARE WE WATCHING IT?

lol
The cat that knows where it's at[info]gothicat on October 19th, 2007 05:52 pm (UTC)
I have just finished City of Bones and I cannot WAIT for the next installment. How you see things is amazing. I was wondering if you have any hints on writing as I am trying to write a book and I have it all drafted out in note form just I can't seem to put meat on the bones, it all comes out "see spot run" in its vocabulary. Also your book has been inspiring some GREAT dreams where I am a shadowhunter catgirl *giggles* ahh dreams and to be young again.

With love
Gothicat
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snarglemuffet[info]snarglemuffet on October 20th, 2007 12:52 am (UTC)
I don't know why High School Musical is so popular. You're right-- I don't know a single teenager who likes it. It targets the twelve-and-under crowd, I think. Although I can't imagine having liked something of that ilk as a child.

By the way: City of Bones was really good. Also, the Very Secret Diaries are amusing. After reading some of your short stories, I have come to the conclusion that you are awesome.
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